9: Sound & Safety: Rethinking Nervous System Healing with Karen Onderko

Welcome to episode 09 of Transformative Harmonics with your host Paula Scatoloni, LCSW, SEP. In this episode, Paula welcomes Karen L. Onderko, co-author with Dr. Stephen Porges of Safe and Sound: A Polyvagal Approach to Connection, Change, and Healing. Karen shares her journey from a career in finance to becoming a leader in advancing polyvagal-informed practices and the Safe and Sound Protocol (SSP).

Karen Onderko is a passionate advocate for advancing the understanding and application of polyvagal principles to improve care, connection, and acceptance among people. She played an important role in bringing SSP from the laboratory to the clinical world, conducting the initial testing, developing the training, and supporting the SSP provider community.

Together with Dr. Porges, she has written a book about SSP titled Safe and Sound: A Polyvagal Approach to Connection, Change and Healing. Regularly witnessing the transformative power of a polyvagal-informed approach, she is eager to support the promotion of education and access to PVT for people in diverse communities throughout the world. Karen is a founding board member of the Polyvagal Institute.

  • 00:00 - Intro
  • 00:54 - Meeting Karen L. Onderko
  • 03:22 - From Finance to Neuroscience
  • 07:12 - Meeting Dr. Stephen Porges & SSP Origins
  • 10:22 - Polyvagal Institute & Adoption
  • 11:46 - Polyvagal Theory in Brief
  • 17:41 - Evolving the SSP Protocol
  • 21:31 - What the SSP Is
  • 24:29 - Writing the Book & Structure
  • 29:07 - Case Studies & Deconstructions
  • 35:48 - Individual to Collective Healing
  • 41:24 - Karen’s SSP Experience & Where to Find the Book


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